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Submitted on: Mar 07, 2017 at 12:58 AM
I confirm that I will abide by the rules and continue to research my class and optimise my raid toon, I agree to abide by these runs, to continue to optimise my toon and keep up to date in class development.
I confirm that I am free to raid on Thursday, Sunday and Tuesday 7.15pm-11.15pm and that I can listen on Discord (preferably both listen and speak).
I confirm I have read the example application and will strive, where applicable to my class, to put in a high level of effort and depth of information into the subsequent sections of my application. Link to the example application:
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Character information

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Race and Class
Orc Rogue
Main spec


Itemlvl (mainspec)

902 (eq)



Itemlvl (offspec)

901 (eq)

Please explain in detail your opener

Garrote->Mutilate->Rupture->Mutilate->Vendetta->Envenom->Kingsbane->Envenome->Mutilate->Blood Fury->Vanish->Garrote->Trinket (DoS)->Envenom->Mutilate->Envenom

Please explain your rotation, if any

Keep Garrote and Rupture up 100% of the duration of the fight, 4+ CP Envenom, if possible 100% uptime of surge of toxins and during kingsbane 100% uptime of envenom

Please explain your current stat priority, this includes gems, enchants & set bonusses you are currently going for

Agi > Mastery > Vers > Crit > Haste (according to the newest version of Simcraft)

Please explain your current talents and glyphs, explain why you are using them, when if and why you change your talents for any current encounter:

Current Talents are the ones playable - may vary from encounter to encounter. Currently may swtich Agonizing Posion with Alacrity if the encounter has an important cleave/AE component (for example Spellblade)

Background information

Raid experience (Current and previous)

in Legion: 7/7 EN, 2/3 ToV and 3/10 NH (unfortunately)
previous expansions : HFC 11/13 - BRF 8/10 HM 7/7

In Classic I did raid and we got till the 4 Horsemen
Burning Crusade: Cleared the whole expansion including Kil´jaedan German first kill (World 9th) as a member of in Harmony

Played Rogue since Classic - only played DH till 7.1.5

Screenshot of UI in RAID COMBAT (LFR is ok)
Previous guilds and reasons for leaving

ButterflyEffect - leaving because Guild is stopping raiding.

Reason behind applying for Weeping Angels

Interested in a new challenge and playing in a top 500 enviroment again

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Thanks for reading



Hi Pwnyrider,

Thanks for your interest and application to our guild.

I'm rather satisfied with your logs, however it appears that you have neglected to fill out certain parts of your application with an appropriate level of detail.

I would really appreciate an expansion on the following:
  • In the rotation section, please explain any differences between Single Target, Cleave and AoE scenarios
  • In the following section, please explain the benefits of your secondary stats, as well as responding to the follow-up points listed (gems, enchants and set bonuses)
  • In the talent section, please give a rundown of each talent you use and a brief explanation as to why it is the best; and please also specify in more detail which talents you would swap by encounter and why.

There is, ultimately, a baseline level of detail we expect from our applications, and this one unfortunately does not meet the standard. If you do not flesh it out I will have no choice but to decline it.

Awaiting your response,
Hi Anke,

thank you for the feedback.

I am sorry about the lack of detail I have given in certain points. I will gladly give you the asked information.

Regarding the rotation section- the main difference between single target and cleave and AoE scenarios is the CP builder. If there are only 2 targets I will mostly try to keep up rupture and poisons on both enemies for maximum energy regen however, attacking the one mob with garrote on it for the full benefit of the rogue 4pc (bleeds increase the damage of envenom). With two targets I mostly still use the ST rotation with short switches to the segond target or a quick Fan of Knives to refresh poisons. IF there are 3 or more mobs I only use mutilate to keep up the Assasinnation 2pc, otherwise FoK for maximum CP and as many Envenom as possible (hoping for a poison bomb procc). Depending on the healthpool of the mobs I would change up my opener a bit and garrote as many as I can and then start with rupture and following that with FoK and Envenom.

Let me now move on to secondary stats and gems, enchants and set bonuses.

As an Assasination Rogue mastery currently really is the best secondary stat by far. This is due to the tier lvl 15 Talent Master Poisoner (Increases the damage done by your poisons by 30% and their non-damaging effects by 20%.) Mastery skyrockets this effect and therefore I also use exclusivly mastery gems (if I should be lucky enough to pick up a decent DoS with socket or necklace/ring I am gladly socketing one agility gem of course). Following that I am going for critical strike and versa in some way, but they only benefit in the usual way whereas mastery is just really good right now. As an enchant Mark of the Hidden Satyr still pulls ahead in ST Sims and I will stay with it since my experiment with Mark of the Trained Soldier was not satisfying. My set bonuses are pretty straight forward - I have to aim for the 4pc otherwise I am not able to do the maximum amount of damage (I want to have Head,Cloak,Chest and Pants since gloves have the wrong stats and I run legendary shoulders)

Lastly the talent section:

LvL 15: Master Poisoner - as I said, this is the go to talent and will not change since Hemorhage is not good and elaborate planning was nerfed
LvL 30:Subterfuge - this is pulling ahead right now because of the Legendary Shoulders which give an extra 3 second 100% crit with subterfuge. I used to run Nightstalker but unfortunately subterfuge outperforms it (although I am really slow now, which is annoying)
LvL 45: Vigor - just the best performing talent - especially with Legendary Boots and this talent will not be changed by any circumstance
LvL 60: Pretty much a tossup - usually running cheat death but since the nerf to it all 3 talents can be used - for example Leeching Poison is almost mandatory during Gul´Dan mythic as far as I can tell from videos and guides - elusiveness may be used if I have to soak abilities alone for example and cheat death just do dodge some mechanics - as I said, every single one of those is viable at the moment.
LvL 75: Thuggee - helpful when adds are there because it gives more uptime on garrote but all the 75 talents are more Mythic+ talents than raid talents to be honest. Maybe one could switch to Prey on the Weak jsut for Krosus since the adds are stunnable.
LvL 90: Agonizing Poison - the go to talent since it buffs the damage of the rogues abilities to the target - this also involves the damage of Draught of Souls which with the shoulders gives a really nice opening burst. As I said before, in mythic+ I usually run Alacrity since deadly poison is better for AoE Packs that do not live so long (especially with the FoK spam) furthermore Alacrity could also be used on Spellblade depending on how strong the AoE/Cleave ability of the raid is. But for pure Single Targtet Agonizing Poison is really ahead and is played on every boss in NH.
LvL 100: Venom Rush - clearly the best Talent, gives the biggest benefit overall. the other talents in this row are more gimmicky and I would never swap to them. Venom Rush gives the ability to have a smooth rotation since it helps to not be energy starved and the more targets are there, the more energy the rogue gets and thus can do more envenoms and pray for more poison bombs.

I hope I could give a better insight and have reached the level of detail you wanted. Sorry again for the first sloppy application and thanks for the kind response and a second chance.


Hi Michael,

Thank you for expanding upon the different sections. This level of detail will never be frowned upon in an application, so there is never a reason not to demonstrate as much class knowledge as possible.

I will have our rogue look over your responses and we will likely have a conclusive decision for you by tomorrow at the latest.

Hey Anke,

thanks for the update. GL today!


Hi Michael,

After reviewing your application & responses we have decided to accept you for a trial.

We have a heroic raid tomorrow (Wednesday), and our Mythic clear will be on Thursday - if you are able to transfer to make it for Mythic that would be great.

Welcome aboard,
Hi Anke,

Those are great news! I´m looking forward to it.

To be safe for Thursday I will just transfer today. I am gladly joining on the heroic raid today.



I did the transfer and I am already on Draenor as Pwnyrider.

I´ll be back at 6:30 PM today and will contact you.


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