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Status: REJECTED (Joined another guild)
Submitted on: Nov 15, 2016 at 07:15 PM
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Character information

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Race and Class
Troll Mage
Main spec

Fire nearly 28 traits (stopped here to lvl up frost expecting balance changes)

Itemlvl (mainspec)

877equipped 885 potential


frost 875 29traits 200k from 30th

Itemlvl (offspec)

875 (not enough haste gear for every slot yet)


Voodoolol: Enhancement Shaman 1 legendary (sephuz in bags)
very few logs recorded since this was an alt and we dont have an alt run
i know these dont show much but plz check for ilvl specific logs

Daveyjonesx: Shadow Priest 0 legendaries old main from WoD and early Legion
rerolled due to some fps problems during early hc progression caused by addons which led to incosistency in my StM performance
again few logs to show

Please explain in detail your opener

Fire opener:
use sinew
precast fireball between -3 and -2.5
if Fireball crit:
with bloodlust another PF-PB without cast RoP then PF-PB
then continue with normal single target rotation
if Fb didnt crit:
cast Fireball 1st try if not crit again 2nd try if not again PF then continue with the previous rotation

Please explain your rotation, if any

rotation revolves around Fireball crit FB for insta pyro. Although knowing ur stats (crit) u can u juggle for some good rng and save some fb charges.Mage doesnt have high consistent dmg so u basically have to time ur burst windows correctly unleashing everything in the RoP and Combustion windows having maximized potential burst by keeping charges before hand.
Knowing the fight in order to utilize to dmg burst during cleave windows is optimal when able.
General rules don't overcap RoP charges
Fb charges in most cases
Don't Delay Combustion especially with Kindling

Please explain your current stat priority, this includes gems, enchants & set bonusses you are currently going for

Stat priority differs from single and multitarget
Single: crit,vers,intel, haste, sp ,mastery
4Target: mastery,intel,crit,sp,vers,haste
In general with the knowledge of the fights
the priority is crit,intel,mastery and then i would say vers=haste

Please explain your current talents and glyphs, explain why you are using them, when if and why you change your talents for any current encounter:

Talent explanation:
tier 1:
Pyromaniac: about as strong as Conflag for single. Adds rng to the playstyle and is hard to be used in complete perfection due to that which leads in less value in my eyes- Helps with mobility though
Conflag: winner for aoe
tier 2:shimmer clear winner the only 1 that can be considered a "dps cooldown"
adds insane mobility gr8 synergy with blink heal and legendary shield
Cauterize can be usefull during progression
tier 3:RoP clear winner
tier 4:Flame On clear winner
Blast wave kinda funny for AoE but sadly cant compete with Flame on
tier 5:Ice Floes clear winner-insane for mobility
tier 6:Living Bomb for most aoe fights especially with many low hps mobs
Unstable magic some very mediocre dmg to single target and low amount of targets stacked cleave
Flame Patch is also ok for AoE but in general Living Bomb outshines it
tier 7:sadly Meteor Unusable, Kindling used in most fights (scales good with gear), Cinderstorm very efficient for cleave incredibly usefull for constant aoe and m+
Talents for EN:
stuff that don't generally change Shimmer-RoP-Flame on-Ice floes
Nythendra:Pyromanic or Conflagration-Unstable Magic- Kindling (pure single target fight no padding on mc due to ignite)
Elerethe: Conflag-Lb-Kindling (Cinderstorm not needed)
Ursoc: Conflag- Um, living bomb could be ok as well, Kindling ( in lower gear Cinderstorm could be better especially since the synergy of sinew-combust isn't ideal))
Dragons: Conflag-LB-Kindling, Cinderstorm can be used as well but i don't prefer it
Il'gynoth:Conflag-Lb(not only for padding but it can provide reliable aoe when not whoring)-Kindling
Cenarius:Conflag-Unstable Magic, LB can be usefull as well depending on wisp tact and raid composition most of the times not though-Kindling
Xavius:Conflag-Unstable Magic- Kindling
Talents for ToV (hc) so far:
Odyn:Conflag-Unstable Magic- Kindling
Guarm:Pyromaniac or Conflag-Unstable Magic- Kindling
Helya: Conflag-LB-Kindling, Cinderstorm can be used as well

Background information

Raid experience (Current and previous)

I did raid from Vanilla till now with breaks:
Vanilla:Zg,Ony,Mc,Bwl,AQ on resto shama and rogue alt
Wtlk: OS,Naxx on Holypriest----Toc,ICC,RS on resto druid and warlock both mains hardcore raiding at that point , rleading as well
Cataclysm:FL and DS casual clears
from vanilla till Mop was mostly a PvPer only time i did srs pve was in Vanilla kinda since i didnt do Naxx and in Wtlk
I don't state guild names because frankly i don't remember them

Wod: HM:casual guild i made with a bunch of friends at the start but didn't work out for various reasons then left midways to join a better guild (Ambition Unbound) do some kinda srs pve progress for Brf did do 11/12mythic then joined Luce for Hfc and did quit at July if i am not mistaken after Gorefiend Mythic

Legion:Endemic was recruited pre legion launch by a friend being promised high end raiding. The guild well was not what i were promised. I was asked and accepted to step up (very bad choice). And am rleading/ managing everything guild related pretty much the whole Emerald Nightmare

Screenshot of UI in RAID COMBAT (LFR is ok)
Previous guilds and reasons for leaving

for Wod: Ambition Unbound: disbanded, Luce:i did quit

Legion: Endemic

Willing to leave the guild due to:
1)Lack of effort all around
2)Unsatisfying progress
3)will to step down from rleading and guild management

Although the atmosphere here is pleasing i really can't be bothered anymore with all those responsibilities especially when the rewards are so little. I am beyond bothered with how casual everyone's mentality is towards the game and i decided that since i am playing this game currently so much i am either gonna do some srs raiding again with respectable progress or i will chill back and enjoy my alting :P

Reason behind applying for Weeping Angels

I am looking for a dedicated and highly motivated semi-hardcore guild that i can enjoy raiding with. Looking for competitive enviroment where i can improve and push myself. Looking for a guild that has a weekly alt run and activity in general outside raiding.

Write any additional information you feel you need to tell in your apply

even though i can't prove something exceptional with logs currently i am more than confident i can play all of my 3 classes at a highly competitive level and could be possibly open even to rerolling if that fits your needs better



sorry for fire nearly 29 traits
Hi George,

Thanks for your interest and application to our guild. I will have one of our mages look over your application and get back to you within the next couple of days.
Hi George,

My first question to you would be about haste caps and when to achieve what caps?

Quick question to your combustion, you don't use Phoenix Flames for it?

Thought about Cinderstorm on 4m fights? since your sinew then lines up perfectly with your combustion? and you get more sustained dmg.

Also looking at your logs, you seem to not change between pyromaniac and Conflag, please explain.

I see you also doing the same mistake that i did at first, instant using RoP after it wears off, and not having the possiblity to get another FB into your RoP.

One of my big questions is why not use Phoenix flames on combust first cast?

understand your reasons behind shimmer, but if you didn't have the chest, but let's say you had belt, bracers or helm, would you still pick shimmer for progress?

Looking forward for your answers

hey there sorry about the delay i am at work currently, will reply in some hours when i get back home.
Ok so lets start with the cinderstorm. Picking Cinderstorm for single target fights like Nythendra for example is a tricky thing and i am not sure if i would recommend it cause it rly depends on the timings. It can work if the fight ends before the 4:20-4:30 marker. If it goes on to lets say 4:30-4:50 its definitely not worth it because u would have fit in another combustion 100% along with its ignite.Same dilema would be if the fight lasted 6:15-6:20. Its all about timing. Anyways though it is still questionable if it would be worth it even with the correct timings. For Ursoc though i believe i would use it given correct timings since u can get benefit out of the cleave.

About shimmer now not sure if thats a trick question but you are gonna get a legit answer :P. Most of the times no i would'nt even without the chest (with the chest changing shimmer is 100% nono). If the dmg can be staggered or is not insanely bursty like aoe on Il'gynoth or Cenarius wisps aoe along with thorns etc (at least like we do it) i wouldn't pick it because double blink means double heal means double mobility and ofc it can be considered easily as a minor dps cooldown depending on movement need ofc . If though surviving some extremely intense bursty dmg phases is questionable even with the stopmacro iceblock on demand i would consider it as i have had in the past.

About pyromaniac you are almost correct i very rarely use it. Even for nythendra for example which is the most common place that could be used and that is intesional. Simply put i dislike rng related talents. Both of them have been simmed and are very close and that is given the absolute perfect usage of the pyromaniac which on combust windows depends on rng and ms kinda.I believe u can get about 2-4 procs each minute and thats with good rng:P while conflag is consistent dmg. In even a double target situation. Conflag is ahead no questions asked.

Ok so now about the RoP i find it weird what you are saying although i haven't checked comprehensively my logs. For example Ursoc i use 2nd RoP if i am not mistaken at the add spawn, Elerethe at spiders, Il'gynoth on the 8 blob aoe, Dragons on the 2 slime spawns. Those are for the opener at least. Now for Nythendra i do use 2nd RoP chained i think instead of waiting like 4-5sec for 2nd FB charge which is if i understand correctly what you are asking.That is for deadly grace dmg amplification but i will test it out. If i understood wrong what you are asking plz explain. Generally though the main idea is for the 2nd Combustion to have everything up again. If u did spot some incosistency it is propably a mistake. As i mentioned with rleading i have lot on my mind and looking around constantly to spot other peoples mistakes.

Ok about the Phoenix Flames lastly. I don't use PF on the first cast because i believe the chance to get a reduced cd isnt worth the extra dmg that it will do after stacking Pyretic Incantations. It's about 2-3sec worth of ignite ticks before i get to use Phonenix Flames and frankly i don't believe i am gambling that much:P. Although i must say my personal touch on the opener which i didn't state in the application is first use 3 charges of fireblast then 1 pf then 1 fb and then dump the 2 rest. Lastly that is questionable and only without Bl and my haste levels. If i see for some reason that i won't benefit from the Phoenix Flames due to travel time and RoP/ Comb running off i keep the last Fireblast stack after using the 3 to use it after all the phonenix flames since it has no travel time.
hmm after posting it i realized my answer is kinda big:P Sorry about that got kinda carried on.
no problem with a big answer :)

most answers i am happy with, the PF on, with Phoenix Reborn talent, getting just 1 use pre-burst or at burst, it secures you not wasting Phoenix Reborn procs, and it should also (when you look at the math) be better.
i understand what you're saying, but in a general when you're bursting (let's say with BL) you should be able to fit in all 3 PF + all 4 IB into combust, as you're doing right now you are potentially wasting PR procs.

One quick question, how is your frost gear? as currently from what we can see on progress, frost aint bad atm.
Hello there and sorry for the delay. My frost gear is a work on progress for over a month now. It is kinda ok but still difficult to get better haste gear than what i have on higher ilvls. Frost masterace though yey. Hype ! :)

Although i regret to inform you that i've been contacted and accepted by an other guild without me having double applied there ( i am not a douchebag:S) so i'll have to withdraw my application. I am sorry about wasting your time and reading all that stuff. Thank you for your time and wish you the best in the upcoming raids :)
No probs, thanks for your application and good luck.
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