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Submitted on: Oct 05, 2016 at 06:09 AM
I confirm that I will abide by the rules and continue to research my class and optimise my raid toon, I agree to abide by these runs, to continue to optimise my toon and keep up to date in class development.
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No , fully free to raid 7 days as long as it's after 2 PM

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Character information

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Race and Class
Blood Elf Mage
Main spec


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Itemlvl (offspec)

should be 850 for BiS

Please explain in detail your opener

for the burst rotation i prepot on 3 sec pull timer and start casting fire ball , i put rune of power and cast scorch , with 75% cast of scorch i use combustion , pyro,fireblast ,pyro fireblast ,phoenix, pyro , flame on , fire blast , pyro , 2nd rune of power , fireblast , pyro , phoenix , pyro . , phoenix , then i back to my usual rotation which is fireball spam with hot streak active to get another hotstreak and so on , for pure single target fights .

For cleaving rotation i cast fireball , rune of power , living bomb , fireblast , cinderstorm , with instant flamestrike , as the cinderstorm travel reaches the target it will be ignited to get the bonus damage , and dragon’s breath , and phoenix's flame for spread and pyro for more ignite dot

Sure this is not for every single boss , it all depends when to use and how to gain max dps needed , as for example ll’gynoth this fight is a total disaster , when we have to kill the a target that have priority over cleaving , and have to save some cd’s for it .

Please explain your rotation, if any

As i mentioned before , spamming fireball to get hotstreak , and casting fireball while hotstreak is active to get another one (RnG) , if i lose hotstreak and got fireblast proc i cast fireball and use fireblast proc for hotsteak , using runes whenever i have a higher chance to gain maximum damage from it , like i use it with flame on , on phoenix's flame 2-3 charges.

Please explain your current stat priority, this includes gems, enchants & set bonusses you are currently going for

fire spec now is crit dependant spec , the higher the crit the higher the more procs and burst damage , for now trying to stack as much critical chance as i can for the pyretic incantation trait and burning gaze for critical damage with balancing mastery for sustained damage and cleave on high hp targets , so i got 59% crit now with 14% mastery which is good now , trying to keep the hot streak is that all what fire mages need to keep your dps up to max , sometimes we get unlucky with no crits for 3-5 casts but this isn’t happening the whole time , since we have a 9 fireball cast reduction time we don’t need the haste anymore and most of our damage is instant cast , this spec is creative and non repeatable as not like many specs in game .

Please explain your current talents and glyphs, explain why you are using them, when if and why you change your talents for any current encounter:

Tier 15 : conflagration for low damage dot and can be spread on other targets with flare up

Tier 30 : shimmer for movement fights and Cauterize if soaking some massive damage may cause death

Tier 45 : Rune of power due to the massive burst with 50% spell power and bursting some adds need to be done faster with high dps

Tier 60 : Flame on (more burst) more procs for pyro and more stack for pyretic incantation

Tier 75 : ice floes to not losing dps while trying to change my position

Tier 90 : living bomb for many targets , unstable magic for single target

Tier 100 : cinderstorm for high cleaving damage and pyretic incantation free stack and kindling for pure single target bosses

Background information

Raid experience (Current and previous)

current is 2/7 mythic EN

Ulduar : full heroic clear 10 and 25 as hunter
ICC : full heroic clear 10 and 25 as a hunter


12/12 heroic 4.1 (so late kills as hunter)

7/7 firelands 10hc hunter and mage

8/8 dragonsoul 10hc mage , blood dk , hunter and warrior


6/6 heroic MsV

5/6 heroic HoF (include grand empress)

3/4 ToES (sha of fear not included )

14/14 heroic SoO as mage , warlock , disc priest , rogue and warrior (prenerf)


HM 5/6 mythic

BRF 8/10 mythic early kills and left the game after for 17 months

came back 2 months before 7.0 , cleared 11/13 mythic prepatch and 13/13 on 7.0

Screenshot of UI in RAID COMBAT (LFR is ok)
Previous guilds and reasons for leaving

Scrootie mcbooger balls , realm 5th , disbanded

Flat earth society , world 105 , disbanded ( the guild was so strong and stable , i joined the guild after they formed by 3 months , everything was good , till one day they decided to stop for some real life issues )

Pescorun , sunstrider , realm 7th ,disbanded ( as known now as grim harvest now , or was the same guild master back then )

Civitas , casual 3 days guild disbanded ( a casual 3 days raiding guild , we manage to kill 5 bosses mythic on highmaul with early kills as for 3 days guild , and at some point the guild master decided to stop raiding after 2 officers left to join ascendance )

Eat my crit , realm 11 , left to join friends on “addicted” newly formed guild i’m in now , and leaving because we took a rush decision joining there , from what we experienced in the first raid is lacking so much leadership , experience and dedication .

Reason behind applying for Weeping Angels

From what i've checked the guild has a stable and prepared roster , nice raiding history that been able to clear every content while it was current , a high end raiding guild and pretty sure a community know what this game means and what it takes to clear contents , suitable raiding times for me

Write any additional information you feel you need to tell in your apply

Not really



thanks for reading this application and hope to hear from you soon
Thank you for the application, Mahmood. I will have our mages review it and will get back to you shortly.

Hi Mahmood, I can see atleast in your opener I'd say you're making a few colossal errors in terms of output, scorch should -never- be cast in any encounter unless you're completely out of Ice Floes and have to move. Also I see that you're following up your first RoP shortly after your combustion would run out, which on some encounters is viable, but ideally you want to be sitting on 1 charge for i.e priority adds, fire blast charges and similar to ensure you'll be able to put as much dps out WITH that RoP as possible, especially incase of bad RNG.

Beyond that there's not really anything to say except your talent choices / reasoning are a bit.. Odd?

Conflagration is the go-to talent on a 2+ fight due to It's flare up effect, which is correct, but you're wrong in what I'm reading to be the only option, Pyromaniac's proc rate is really strong single target, and on some fights priority adds won't be alive long enough for you to benefit enough from Conflagration, i.e Ursoc - Pyromaniac becomes the go-to talent.

Also, Cinderstorm is not as good as Kindling on -a lot- of fights. If your raid does well, you will have other classes cleaving really crazy numbers, meaning adds don't stay alive long enough for you to get a proper Cinderstorm in before they're dead, and x2 Cinderstorm won't be worth it unless you can hit -every- add with an ignite before every single projectile hits the pack, which requires proper positioning and a slight bit of RNG in terms of hot streak.

You'll find it Kindling is the more preferred talent on most fights.

Your logs are above average but it looks like you've been struggling a lot with maintaining your rotation during some encounters due to mechanical management and in a case or two combined with really bad RNG.

Stat priority - Well, you're right regarding the crit part, but would you like to please elaborate on our stat priority exactly? - By this I mean beyond crit, what is it mages desire?

Ah 1 more note, optimizing your gear, you really should craft the Darkmoon Card or buy it, get it to 850 and use it instead of your Bloom trinket, Darkmoon Card is extremely potent until you can get something better.

Looking forward to hearing your answer, until then I'ma leave it at that. :)
Well i have explanation for everything , it just seemed you got the wrong picture or i didn't explain so well :)

The scorch in the opener is not always , the first fireblast i cast with prepull if it's crit , then i just combust then fireblast , if it's not then i scorch to get 1 more pyroblast (instant) for maximum damage with combustion . casting scorch is about not more than 15% on all of my openers.

The 2nd instant RoP after combustion (in case of blood lust) , like nythendra i use 2 RoP , but i explained at some point im saving rune with another flame on , 1-2 charges of phoenix's flame and 2 charges of firebalst , and for the instant use of 2 charges of fireblast (in-case) of a very low hp adds and no hotstreak up due to RnG or lack of crit which is poor , and cinder with flamestrike so i ignite so fast while cinder is traveling .

Conflagration and pyromaniac , i tried pyromaniac on nythendra mythic and it was may be my luck because it proc'd 2-3 times only , the buff uptime was 0.7% ... i haven't use it for many pulls but the proc was really bad ... i know it should be better for pure single target fights but my chances were so low that i cant even compare with conflagration

Kindling and cinder honestly it all depends on how your guild or current team and how they decide to sort cd's and priority targets , i used cinder on the following bosses

for example on ll'gynoth they made us use all cd's on horror and ignore eveything which it was bad but kinlind was the best , after we did the right mechanics i found cinder is good which you can use combustion on and 2 times on heart
dragons of nightmare

kindling for the rest bosses

For the trinket i have (5 trinkets , today was thinking to buy darkmoon in case ll'gynoth trinket wont drop )

being honest spend over 300k so far on flasks , runes , pots and food so just w8ing my last chance for trinket today

and for my dps it's not that good now as it should be like previous tiers , in fact my worst percentile on SoO was 88 , but i have reasons i can explain on team speak
Hey :)

I would like for you to explain a bit more in dept on how you use cinderstorm.
it's a bit different on how many targets and positioning and hit box size :)

In case of so many adds , i just make sure i get a hotstreak before , i position myself to stay near i cast living bomb then rune of power , then i cast cinder storm , while cinder storm is being casted i use the instant flamestrike on the adds to apply ignite to all targets , the flame strike will automatically casted after cinderstorm cast ends , as the ciders reaches the targets they will be ignited and each add will take 4-6 cinders .

i tried sometimes to use cinderstorm as burst rotation to get instantly 5 stacks of pyretic incantation but it was not the best idea , with the end of cinder cast i use combustion 6 cinders with crit and give the crit damage but losing 1-2 sec of combustion isn't the best thing to do

Mahmood, after discussing your application with our mages we have decided to pass at this time. If we were to take a 4th mage, they would have to challenge out existing mages and the evidence here is that you are a bit behind

Best of luck in your guild search.

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