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Status: REJECTED (Class is full)
Submitted on: Aug 04, 2016 at 07:56 AM
I confirm that I will abide by the rules and continue to research my class and optimise my raid toon, I agree to abide by these runs, to continue to optimise my toon and keep up to date in class development.
I confirm that I am free to raid on Thursday, Sunday and Tuesday 7.45pm-11pm and that I can listen on Team Speak (preferably both listen and speak).
I confirm I have read the example application and will strive, where applicable to my class, to put in a high level of effort and depth of information into the subsequent sections of my application. Link to the example application:
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Tom Luo







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Character information

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Race and Class
Troll Mage
Main spec


Itemlvl (mainspec)




Itemlvl (offspec)



Warlock - Demo(732ilvl) used to be main before i swapped to mage on HFC.

Please explain in detail your opener

General rotation:
Depending on fights cds might be saved for later phases although currently most bosses die within 1min.

Rune of Power
Fire blast
Fire Blast
Flame On
Fire Blast

Please explain your rotation, if any

Rune of Power on CD
Pyroblast on Hotstreak
Flame On
Fire blast use when Heating up
Scorch - on movement

Please explain your current stat priority, this includes gems, enchants & set bonusses you are currently going for

Stat Priority:

Critical Strike

Crit gems, Crit enchants; Thunderlord on wep

Please explain your current talents and glyphs, explain why you are using them, when if and why you change your talents for any current encounter:


Tier 1 - Lvl 15
Pyromaniac - On most encounters you will benefit from this talent more since the fights are short and casting extra Pyroblasts overall has more dps than the other talents.
Tier 2 - 30
Shimmer - Adds more mobility, it doesnt go off as a global
Tier 3 - 45
Rune of Power - provides big burst if timed well with CDs
Tier 4 - 60
Flame on - first of all it is quite in sync with rune of power and also granting you charges of Pyroblasts as for example in the opener.
Tier 5 - 75
Ice Floes
Tier 6 - 90
Flame patch - was nerfed quite significantly recently but imo its still the best especially for cleave fights but that is if enemies stay in fire. Also it goes well with the Archi trink.
Tier 7 - 100
Cinderstorm - on short fights where you would not get an extra combustion; cinderstorm performs quite well.

Background information

Raid experience (Current and previous)

Warlords of Draenor:
Highmaul - 6/7N - 7/7HC
BRF - 10/10N - 9/10HC - 10/10M (Did not progress as Mythic difficulty but rather killed it by being over geared from HFC in guild for the mount.)
HFC - 13/13N - 13/13HC - 13/13M
Mists of Pandaria: I quit in the beginning of this expansion and came back late into SoO, where I joined a guild <Reshistanche ish ushlesh> and did 14/14 NM / 12/14HC.
Cataclysm: This expansion is when I was first introduced to the game by my friend, and only was in the process of understanding the game and mainly used to pvp.
Wrath of the Lich King: None
The Burning Crusade: None

Screenshot of UI in RAID COMBAT (LFR is ok)
Previous guilds and reasons for leaving

<BiS> (cant rly remember how long i have raided with BiS, but my guess is about 3month+ progressed through HFC mythic mainly with them) left mainly for more steady progress, and other factors in the raid team like dkp system, which I totally never tried when I first joined and now I quite hate it tbh.
<Boom Time> (approx raided 1month+ with them) main reason i had to stop raiding with them is because I got pretty sick and couldnt continue raiding, however I have recovered and Im rdy to raid once again.

Reason behind applying for Weeping Angels

Legion is here soon and my passion is to play wow especially to raid competitively. I will make sure that I live up to the standards and stay dedicated.

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Thank you for taking the time to read my application.



Why dont you continue raiding with boom time then? Just asking?
Well what I really thought when I came back to the game was that they prob replaced me already with lots of new trials, and also I didnt feel like i really fit in to their team.
Hey Tom,

Thanks for your interest and application to our guild.

Our guild's mages will look through your application so please be prepared to answer any questions or concerns they might have.
Most recent logs:

Just an observation - your application details the fire spec but you seem to have no logs for fire whatsoever. You must appreciate that it's difficult for us to analyse your practical performance without any evidence, even if it were just heroic.
Hello Tom, I just wanna ask you a few questions, starting with the fact you say your opener is pre-casting rune of power, then pre-potting, THEN casting fireball. - You lose 2+ seconds of your RoP on that, this tells me you haven't really tested fire as it is because that is a dps loss, a big one at that, you -cannot- lose a single second of your RoP.

Tier 2 talent choice - You pick Shimmer over Cold Snap, or even Cauterize, considering the removal of Evanesce, and Alter Time - Why exactly? If you progressed or atleast farmed on your mage you may recall how many fights depended on those.

Talent Tier 7 - Cinderstorm, I agree with this choice it is the right one, however I am concerned about you saying It's better for "Short fights", why is it better for short fights and not for long fights? Would you rather go Kindling for long fights atm?

And final question, on certain 4+ target encounters, would you say It's worth casting Flamestrike with your streak procs instead of Pyroblast?

(Post-final question question!) - Why have you not got any logs of your performance as Fire during the pre-patch? While yes it does not reflect the spec 100%, it is a really good way of getting used to it, and your opener already tells me that you haven't tested it properly. Just curious. :)

Looking forward to reading your response!

Yes it is correct I did not test it in a raid environment but rather on dummies and this is due to the fact that I have recently came back to the game and just got up to date with the prepatch changes. Therefore I went with the easiest way and that is check current top guilds like Serenity, like what talents/specs or stats they went with. After setting up new WAs and sorted out skills; i tested it on dummies. About the opener i was mainly looking at a recent guide on youtube when I came back, where it said currently his precasting RoP before the pot but it can be done in others ways, so I went with it.

Tier 2 talent choice -
Yeah I remember fights like Zakuun, and Xhul used evanesce to negate dmg or removing the debuff chain from xhul. Yes shimmer (this talent I picked prob without looking since I wasnt in any raid environment, I was only testing on dummies) does not benefit me as much, if i have raided I would go with cauterize especially on progress, where it would save me from getting one shot.

Tier 7 -
For long fights kindling will give you another Combustion since more dmg comes from this, while on shot fights you wouldnt be able to get 2nd combust of you would go with cinderstorm.

Yes I would choose to cast Flamestrike instead of pyro and from recent forums I think I have read that using procs on Flamestrike has much more gains.

Ye most of the logs I have got was HFC progression/farm, and that means unfortunately I have not got recent updates of logs for the moment since Im not in any raiding team. Can possibly join random HFC groups and record some logs if that helps.

Thank you,

Hello, there here.
Please go ahead and create some logs for us.
I would also like for you to comment a bit more on your Stat priority, how you came to that, and what your thoughts are about it.

Looking forward to read your comments.

Well crit is our main stat giving chances of instant pyros therefore giving us more consistant damage and makes the rotation smooth, althou mastery has same important value for sustained cleave/aoe fights since the IgniteDot source is mastery. Also synergy between crit and mastery is good since when there is Hot streak; pyroblasts and flamestrikes produces twice the normal ignite amount then also your mastery adds unto it.

Apologizing ahead, I'm quite rusty atm but by the end I was getting more comfortable with the rotation/opener.
Hey Tom,

We have discussed your application. Your logs are pretty solid, and our Mages seem to be reasonably satisfied with your responses.

Unfortunately, the issue we have is that our roster is completely full at the moment (with 27 raiders), and as such we can't justify giving you a trial (otherwise we likely would in all honesty)

Again, thanks for your interest and good luck with your guild hunt!
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